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The problerm with Socialism is that...

May 29th, 2011 (11:01 pm)

...Sooner or later, you run out of other people's money to spend.

I beg your indulgence whilst I revise and extend a reply to a comment made on my previous post.

The United States government routinely spends trillions of dollars (3.4 x 10^9 in the 2010 budget). Now, we aren't in a position to spend trillions of dollars, but there's nobody to stop 'em kiting checks, overcharging credit cards, refinancing the second and third mortgages, and printing wastepaper money until the day that every bill falls due at once. Except for the taxpayers, and the Tea Parties have thus far gained only a little traction among privately-employed wage-earners and small business owner/operators who are actually paying taxes. They're badly outnumbered by those who do not actually pay taxes. 

Now, if I do something like that, I go bankrupt and lose everything except the clothes on my back, then go to prison for bank fraud and counterfeiting. If a congresscritter or president does it, he gets re-elected by the people he bought off.

As stated, however, the bills will one day, sooner or later, all fall due at once. Then things get... interesting... We're going to get serious about the National Debt almost too late, or we're going to submit to a debt reduction plan fcrom a UN-sponsored NGO that reduces us to the Third-World level, or the creditor nations are going to repo our so-sorry A$$ets.

Worse comes to worst,  I might have to bug out to Calgary or Medicine Hat - which gripes my ass on a whole bunch of levels (not least of which is the amount of Humble Pie an "Murrican would have to eat before a Canuck. Only thing I have left in that scenario is a variation on  Mas Ayoob's endorsement of the grand prize he awards the shooter who improves enough to beat his score when he shoots the Q-Course alongside his students: "You beat me at my own game...")  Frankly, a Western Canadian Separatist Movement (at least, as I percieve through tozetre 's eyes), more closely matches my political beliefs than "Welfare-Client" Democrats or "Country-Clubber" Republicans. And doesn't that just suck bilgewater? Mind, that might be just jumping from one fire to another, since Ottawa tramples on the provinces as badly as DC stomps all over the states, but, oh, well,  Life is Hell...


Posted by: Tozetre (tozetre)
Posted at: May 30th, 2011 01:49 pm (UTC)

We like to believe their trampling is due more to idiodicy than malice, when the "right-wing" parties are in office. So the next four years should involve a whole lot of trampling, due to the majority that got voted in.

But yeah, I sort of envision the new nation of Flyover in the next hundred years. Fascists to the east, Hippies to the west, and us, stuck in the middle.

Posted by: michael_j_doyle (michael_j_doyle)
Posted at: June 1st, 2011 04:13 am (UTC)

Yeah, Hanlon's Razor: "Cock-up before Conspiracy".But, there's this line from Robert Ringer in Looking Out for #1 (http://www.amazon.com/Looking-Out-Number-Robert-Ringer/dp/0308103343/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1306900391&sr=1-1) "...He might be sincerely sorry, but the results are the same as if he were glad." You might tar-and-feather 'em; it worked well enough for educational purposes in 1776. (Of course, I hasten to add that this would be considered aggravated assault, and I can't recommend illegal activities. If you do it anyway, be prepared to take a full set of lumps when you're in the dock for it...)

Ours, of course, are a more difficult problem. There are some Country-Clubbers who are going to take some lumps in the 2012 primaries, but I doubt the object lessons are going to take. Of course, the Welfare-Clients won't listen to the object lessons in the first place, so we're hosed on that score. I deplore that things might get interesting if they don't take the lesson to heart...

Posted by: Tozetre (tozetre)
Posted at: June 1st, 2011 01:31 pm (UTC)

Oh yes, insane or stupid, he was still justly the cause of much western separatist emotion. And, unlike the hippies, I know where my line in the sand is drawn and don't expect to be treated nicely by governments that cross it.

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